Beverly Cleary Short-Term Enrollment Relief
Options:
Questions/Comments from 1/16 Meeting
OPTION I:
CREATE A THIRD BCS CAMPUS AT ROSE CITY PARK
QUESTIONS
(ANSWERS ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS)
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Why
not move all of K-4 or 5 to RCP? New BCS on 2 campuses - Fernwood and RCP
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Why
not close Hollyrood temporarily and move K-2 to RCP?
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Why
is it least likely that K-1 would move to Rose City? They can stay together there.
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How
does option 1 help Hollyrood?
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Can
you elaborate on “professional development” limitations?
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Is
PPS committed to funding option 1 including – additional staff: PE teachers,
certified librarians, library books, art/music teachers, additional
administrator?
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Would
there be a dedicated BCS administrator on site?
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How
would moving 7th and 8th grade free up any ground floor classroom space at
Fernwood?
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Will
the district provide additional FTE to help cover travel time for elective
staff between sites?
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If we
have more classrooms and can spread out kids do we get more teachers to make
class sizes smaller?
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Would
we have librarians, VP's, counselors?
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Where
are additional “ground floor” classrooms per code at Fernwood?
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Why
not temporary structures?
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What
is the maximum capacity of RCP?
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What
are the population constrains of the 3 proposed locations: Hollyrood, Fernwood,
Rose City Park? How from an over
enrollment by grade standpoint would they best be mapped with potential
existing resources?
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Can
you pull data to see which grades have the most families with 2 kids in grades
that could move together?
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If
1st grade moves to Fernwood, are there enough rooms on the ground level at
Fernwood for 2nd graders?
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Why
not make a 1/2 split class or K/1 split to make more space?
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Will
adding a 3rd campus cost more money?
Will this come out of existing money and altering teacher FTE or will
additional funding will be provided?
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Do
they get extra electives – moving to RCP – Gym? Art?
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Is
Rose City Park school up to code, etc.?
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How does seismic safety of RCP compare to
other PPS facilities?
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Why
was RCP closed in 2007?
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Campfire
in all locations?
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Would
there be 3 libraries?
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If
grades 7 & 8 moved to RCP, how would electives for remaining 6th graders at
Fernwood be handled?
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How
would elective choices be affected for the 7th or 8th graders if they moved to
Rose City?
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Explain:
What is the ACCESS program? How would it
affect the grader to move to RCP?
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Which
grade level (s) would emotionally be a better fit with ACCESS students (is age
a factor when it comes to being comfortable with kids designated as
"gifted"?
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Would
option #1 put any limitations on entry of new K students?
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Would
you keep a school (Hollyrood) open in the future if it only has Kindergarten?
COMMENTS
(Some stated in the form of questions)
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You
cannot shift part of first grade to BCF.
This would dismount our very successful walk to Read program as well
as other academic programs. If first
grade is to move it needs to be all or nothing.
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Splitting
the 1st grade classrooms is NOT community!
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Don't
like splitting a grade between buildings.
This seems the best option #1.
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Do
not split up a grade if students go to RCP.
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I
think splitting a grade level between two campuses would be near impossible
for a team to maintain connection/community for staff and students.
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Move
whole grades to RCP with ACCESS. I
like this option for a number of reasons, but the least palatable is the idea
of splitting 1st grade (I guess, actually that happens around the City
anyway…) what would it take to keep 1st graders together?
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Splitting
1st grade doesn’t seem like an insurmountable option – but would you consider
just moving one grade to reduce the number of kids impacted? Also seems like the impact should be
focused on kids not impacted by Grant closure…
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How
are we going to do school-wide events being on 3 campuses?
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Concern
- 3 kids at 3 campuses!!! Yikes!
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2nd
graders are already planning to move to a new building , so RCP would be a
less disruptive move.
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I
don't agree that this keeps the community united. Why did they close RCP and forced those
families to come to BCS? Isn't this
part of the reason for the problem? Not just our "popularity"?
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Move
some grades to RCP. As a one-year
solution moving 7 and 8 wouldn't be horrible (I have a 6th grader now) if
they had good staff and maybe sweeten deal with ACCESS program inclusion. They are most independent, on bikes,
walking, most grown up.
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If
you move 2 graders to RCP, please make sure they are contiguous grades (e.g.,
2-3 rather than 1-4). I feel strongly
about this both for program purposes and because it is more child-centered
(socially they want to be with peers/near pears)
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Students
who live in the BCS neighborhood would be displaced (potentially) by students
who may be transfers or grandfathered in after moving out. The "current community" would be
difficult to maintain on 3 campuses.
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Logistics
of child care and transportation (start time?), Camp Fire? Are so important
to our families. This is too hard to
judge without knowing that information.
This affects my career.
Questions - child care, transportation, start times, safety.
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Need
to provide transportation as RCP is no longer a walkable distance.
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#1
introduces safety concerns by increasing traffic and a number of car
trips.
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Provide
Campfire at all campuses. NOT in favor
of splitting grades. Like the space
casement (lunchroom, library, gym).
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This
option would split Campfire up even further if 2 & 3 go to RCP. Seems unsustainable for that reason and
staff will be stretched super thin.
Will the benefit outweigh?
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Does
not keep community together.
Eliminates K-8 philosophy.
Staff stretched – older/younger interactions? We already have had kids at 3 locations –
difficult transport. Doesn’t
necessarily keep all kids together in one grade.
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7
and 8 to RCP could be really great! Access to ACCESS electives, support, etc.
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Excellent
option. Grades 7 and 8 would be
optimal – no need for child care considerations, great opportunities for
synergy with electives.
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Why
not move just 7th and 8th grade to RCP?
There are still some middle schools in Portland!
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Have
you considered not having the current 6th and 7th grade students move to Rose
City? The reason is because they will
already disrupted for two years during the Grant reconstruction.
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I
think opening up the RCP as a “campus” of Beverly Cleary… Why not treat it like a “Jr High” and have
7th and 8th graders at RCP Campus of Beverly Cleary?
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Would
you consider moving one grade to RCP to be the least disruptive to the fewest
number of kids (2nd grade)? I’m
concerned if we move 7 and 8 that would give precedent to creating a
permanent middle school – BOO!
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I
would rather keep the mid school intact at one school. How will I manage 3 kids at 3 schools? How will I get them there?
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Please
remember that some grades are going to be sent to Marshall for 2 out of 4 of
their high school year. Please don’t
disrupt those kids further.
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If
third campus, moving 7th and 8th to RCP would create an almost middle school
like atmosphere – which would not be a terrible situation. Def.
move all of 1st to Fernwood.
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I know
ACCESS kids are at RCP, but if they can be moved around within the building,
can there be enough ground floor space for the littlest kids? Is this the
issue? It seems more disruptive to
move kids already attending the two existing BCS campuses.
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Seems
like 7 and 8th graders going to RCP would be most feasible.
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Our
Kindergartners were stuffed in Cafeteria last year. Why didn't they benefit
from this? UNITED yet DIVIDED. Makes more sense to cap and set boundaries
than to shift everything around. This
is the least desirable for most families.
If our 2nd graders go to RCP, where do they go for 3rd?
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The
Hollyrood campus seems like a luxury.
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Would
it make sense to close Hollyrood and use the Fernwood and RCP buildings, 2
sites again?
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Will
RCP ever re-open as a neighborhood school?
Seems like this would solve our problems.
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At
first this option seems the best - moving oldest kids who are independent
could work well. Does this accommodate
continued growth best? Whatever we set
up now well set a precedent for district wide.
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My
preference is for this option.
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I
think it's imperative to keep the BC community together.
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How
can we evaluate this as a choice without knowing which grades would move? Why
can't we know now whether 1st grade would be split?
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Why
is re-opening RCP just a temporary option?
It seems this is a long-term solution for our community, not a
short-term one. But I'm concerned
about my child being a part of a school with new un-tested
administration. For older grades,
there is already sharing w/Grant - not possible if shifting to RCP.
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Regardless
of which option is chosen, shouldn't all kids who no longer live in the BCS
neighborhood return to their neighborhood schools?
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Suggestion:
7 and 8 at RCP. Kids could walk home
from there or take a bus back to Fernwood to help parents with multiple kids at
multiple campuses
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Does
this decision set precedent as a litmus test of sorts for permanent
redistricting of boundaries?
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Should
consider equities of disruption on various grades including those most impacted
by Grant move. Want to avoid zig zagging
of Hollyrood to Fernwood to Rose City to Fernwood. Make a more sensible decision.
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Option
1 seems best for the community - seems most fair to move 2-3 as these kids will
not be impacted by Grant HS remodel move.
Also seems like great solution for campfire. Please value Campfire in decision.
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Safety
- Operating three campuses will increase travel # of car trips that are bound
to increase # of accidents to our children.
So will there be shuttles, buses or walking to minimize vehicle traffic
?
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Move
7th 8th grade to Rose City Park? This was the structure I experienced having 2
yrs. of a smaller more intimate experience with my classmates in that age group
. My time in a bldg. that housed grades
9-12.
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The 4th - 8th graders will move during the HS
re-model. It's fair to spread the burden
and move younger kids who will benefit from the new bldg.
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Parent
who is also a teacher has taught in K-5 & K-8, moving 7th & 8th graders
to RCP would be more like a middle school model. Works as well as K-5 model does not think K-8
model works as well.
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Would
not work to split 1st grade between two campuses. Existing programs couldn't
continue.
OPTION
2: BOUNDARY CHANGE
QUESTIONS
(ANSWERS ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS)
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So
kids would "temporarily" move to either a different neighborhood
school (Roseway Heights or Irvington) or Rose City Park… and then be moved
AGAIN the following year with a permanent boundary change?
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Would
the temporary boundary selected be likely to become permanent when
redistricting occurs?
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What
do you mean by temporary boundary change?
Isn't there any way to project 2 years out so families can plan for the
future?
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Can
boundary change occur next year?
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How
likely is the boundary change to become permanent?
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This
option seems the best because boundary change is inevitable. So why not make the "permanent"
boundary change now? Why does every
decision have to be so short-term?
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If
RCP was to have a neighborhood component class for younger students how could
you control quality for this plan?
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If
RCP re-opened, would it be a K-8 eventually or feed into Fernwood? What high school would it feed into?
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If
kids (47th east) were sent to RCP would it be a new school or would it be a BC
school?
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Are
78 kids across all grade?
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Would this be expensive for infrastructure,
teachers, lunch rooms, library, principal, etc. ?
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Does
RCP have after school program?
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Can
we open a school in half a year and give us the same quality?
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If
sent to RCP or Irvington would decision be made in time for Camp Fire parents
to sing up? Or guarantee a spot at new
school?
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What
are Roseway Heights and Irvington projections - are we creating a new
overcrowding problem?
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What
is the available capacity at Gregory Heights?
By population? By Class levels?
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If
RCP were to become a neighborhood school which high school would it feed into?
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I
realize east of 47th is only an example, but please explain the number of
students you arrived at. There appears
to be over 200 students east of 47th.
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Why
limit it to K-2 students?
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What
if this does not resolve issue the following year?
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I was
unclear on how RCP would collect those "new" students who my come
east of 47th? Please explain.
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If
there is the prospect of a "starter school at RCP, would electives,
childcare, etc. be immediately available?
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What
if option is moved forward and either Superintendent OR School Board vote it
down? Then what?
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Do we
know this solution could hold through the 2015-16 boundary change process?
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Can
you ensure families would get all their kids in one place?
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If
you live on 28th which school would our child attend?
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What
about kids (K-2) currently outside the BCS boundary? Do they transfer to their neighborhood
school?
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Is
Roseway Heights for East of whatever the only option? Rigler?
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How
would this affect the other schools that the grades would
"temporarily" attend? Would
this bring those schools to overcrowding issues? For example, Irvington.
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If
you open RCP, can we guarantee the high school lines won't change?
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Why
would we allow student to stay to the highest grade? Seems unnecessary and problematic.
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Why
is PPS considering Roseway Heights for this option?
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Who
determines if it is Roseway Heights or RCP?
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Please
clarify which students? Current K, 1
(13-14) plus future Kindergarten? Or
just K-1 in 14-15?
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Are
you sure other boundary decision will be made by 2015-16?
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Would
siblings be considered to be able to stay if they have brothers/sisters at
Fernwood? Would have multiple campuses
for families.
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Would
you consider creating a BCS only class, intact, at the other existing school
(Irvington, Roseway Heights)? Or merge kids in with other classes so they would
be in community?
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Why
is Roseway Heights considered if RCP which is much closer and is available?
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Would
we know by Feb. 2014 decision whether going to RCP or Roseway?
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How
were boundaries selected? The two
options each free up different numbers of students. It would seem more fair if the number of
students freed were equal (would seem less arbitrary.
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Are
there race and/or socio-economic ramifications for moving west and/or
east? Doesn't it mostly create a rich
neighborhood?
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Would
any teachers go to RCP or will these students get new, sub-par teachers and
staff?
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Why
is there a contradiction from last years meeting? It was stated last year that boundary changes
would not fix our problem. Tonight the
opposite. How boundary change will
correct and this will only affect 2014/15?
COMMENTS (Some stated in the form of
questions)
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Any
boundary change should be part of a long-term change. I like the idea of having a neighborhood
component at Rose City Park through option #2.
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Boundary
shift would be hard as a temp fix.
This would have the biggest impact on the kids which we need to be
most sensitive to.
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You
stated this is a temporary option. It
appears all are.
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Not
knowing where PPS is on the permanent, boundary change, it does not seem that
option 2 coupled with permanent changes in the future makes sense. Can you do this temp boundary change to
align with most likely future changes?
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I
don't believe (you) that this will be temporary - I just don't. I thought Roseway Heights is FULL? Is it?
This option stinks!
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It
is really important to make this with a more long term view even though it's
considered a short term solution.
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Concern
with temporary boundary change.
Creates feeder pattern.
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Temp
Boundary Change disrupts the community more than moving student to RCP
(option 1).
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Poor
idea -temporarily disruptive, and probably will effect HS boundaries. Really
hard on kids in schools in families.
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As
a family that would not be disrupted by this, it seems like a terrible idea
because it may potentially (or very likely) split families into two separate
communities. Also, thought the caveat
is "temporary", this is more likely to become permanent. Benefits seem very small, very
short-sighted solution. Also more
students could be entering due to new types of housing.
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My
concern is that this change would be permanent and not temporary, which would
really tear apart our lovely BCS community.
This is the worst option!
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Wouldn't
moving older children who have had the benefit of this high quality education
to a smaller scale Jr. high be a smooth transition since they have years of
training as well as unique need for HS preparation?
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Option
2 seems to result in a single class of K, 1 and/or 2 at RCP. That seems to create a serious lack of
"community" within those grades.
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The
options PPS presents are not the only options. If they were, Hollyrood would have been
closed along with RCP.
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We
lose neighborhood/community connectivity of children in our
neighborhood. Some kids would go to
Fernwood. Some kids to Rose City/Irvington - very disruptive to a
neighborhood connection for kids.
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We
think reopening RCP to K-2 would be less disruptive to BCS as a whole than
option 1. Much less.
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More
info on sibling provisioning.
Boundaries must be defined prior to decisions.
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Boundary
change seems to be the best logical choice.
Population growth can support going back to old boundaries. But if it won't support a long term
solution for overcrowding it obviously won't work.
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Property
values, people moved here specifically for children to attend BCS -unfair to
them.
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Sending
new + young students west of 57th "back" to RCP makes sense. Sandy Blvd. is a real border - kids are
unlikely to walk/bike all the way over to 33rd. Walking to RCP would be great.
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There
was already a RCP school and PPS closed it.
NOW there is a mess.
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What
about Sandy Blvd as a border. Safety
issues crossing a busy street.
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This
option seems more disruptive to the community as a whole. However, it might make sense for families
with multiple kids.
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Potentially
gets back to the old problem of elementary student attending Madison feeder
but being a part of Grant.
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Just
changing grades K-2 does not seem to free up enough space. Maybe K-5?
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Many
of your changes seem too conservative and may need revising again.
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Sounds
like option 2a:Irvington, 2b. 47th - RCP, 2c. 47th - RWH so my preference,
reaction varies by the option!
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If
you do it across grades K-5 it frees up more space.
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Confirm
- no impact to 3-8 kids? Do not impact older kids.
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Like
option of program start @ RCP Must reopen RCP as a neighborhood school.
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Awful
- very disruptive!
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A
huge benefit of this option is that it reestablishes a neighborhood school
component to RCP. What about the
option of including (some) older grades.
That would provide more relief AND create strong neighborhood
component.
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Too
divisive.
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New
K-2 with 78 students at RCP? That
needs way more definition to be a real option for consideration.
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Shifting
those east of 47th would have less of an impact if they shifted to RCP not
Roseway Heights. Too hard to
assimilate into an already established school.
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Imperative
as a community to avoid option #2/Temporary boundary change. Need to stick together as a neighborhood.
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RCP
is a good option, but I do not want to trek to Roseway. Please make it clear if RCP or Roseway.
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This
option does not seem particularly effective or efficient.
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Creating
1K, 1 1st and 1 2nd grade classroom by themselves at RCT (W/ACCESS) would be
challenging for teachers to create curriculum for their students as there
would be no opportunities for grade level colleagues to collaborate. If there is a boundary change it needs to
be to a school that allows grade levels to be together.
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This
sounds like a really disruptive solution - hearing current K-1 students move
to a different school for one year and then return. Unless you are planning to make RCP a
neighborhood school (again!) then this option should not be considered.
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As
a staff member, option 2 creates less program disruptions.
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Option
2 is a great deal of upheaval for our kids - moving into an establish
community and perhaps moving back to BCS.
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Terrible
option for the kids. It puts them with
few others all alone in a new school.
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I
would not mind RCP but Roseway Heights is very far NE, comparatively, and it
doesn't have a great reputation for academics.
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If
we are going to change our boundary for the long term solution. Maybe rip off the band aid now if it will
become permanent anyway? Not much bang
for your buck?
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Terrible,
terrible idea. Also seems unlawful
given that the Board might approve boundary changes.
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I
purchased my house with the expectation that my children would go to Beverly
Cleary & Grant High. This change
could also affect the desirability of my neighborhood, property values,
etc. Children will be shuffled to
multiple schools with different kids..etc..
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If
option 2 is the "solution" this effects the education of our
children from K-8 and then again in high school. This boundary change puts our children in a
disadvantaged position regarding their educations. If you are east of 47th the kids would also
be put in Madison High School. This
would affect the values of our homes which threatens our financial outlooks
and our children's educations.
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Teachers
and staff should bear out the effects of this not the kids.
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Frees
up the least classrooms
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The
geographic solution ignores income and diversity in peers and would likely
decrease diversity.
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West
of 28th families will leave and go to private school. Can't make decisions without knowing
provisions for siblings.
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How
can PPS consider putting Fernwood kids into Rose City if you remember the
closing of Rose City School - there was not good feelings between these two
groups in the same neighborhood. Now
we are going to move into their school very bad for our community feeling and
love.
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OPTION
THREE: ENROLLMENT CAP
QUESTIONS
(ANSWERS ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS)
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When
the boundary changes happen permanently, will the kids who have transferred in
be then forced to move?
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How
many kids per grade 2-8 would this mean if " non Beverly Cleary
neighborhood" kids were assigned back to their neighborhood school?
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How
are kids decided? Which kids get to go?
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For
families that live in the BCS boundary:
If kindergartner was transferred, would they be able to return to BCS
after district boundary change?
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What
is this soonest a kindergarten lottery could be completed? And students
reassigned.
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Could
PPS/BC give preference to incoming K students who have siblings already
enrolled at BC?
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Will
there be a say in where the kids would go?
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Would
that free up enough classrooms at Fernwood? "Are out of attendance
area" students spread out by grade level or more prevalent in a few
grades?
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We
live 3 blocks from the school, have a child going into 2nd grade, and an
incoming kindergartener. Would my
kindergartener go into the lottery?
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Why
can't we keep 4 K classes? Limit
enrollment to neighborhood still?
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How
many students are transfer students?
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Can
option 2 be combined with the part of option 3 to their neighborhood schools?
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Doesn't
27 kinders make a new class?
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Could
enrollment in grades k-2 be capped, while enrollment in upper grades not be
capped? (Non-neighborhood students in
upper grades would not be required to move to their neighborhood schools.)
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It
the school board likely to approve this option?
Has it been vetted?
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How
does this resolve space issues at Fernwood?
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Does
this mean that you will "crack down" on older students who do not
live in the boundary? I personally know
of 2, 2nd graders using false addresses to attend BCS.
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How
would this affect teaching staff?
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Why
wouldn't we take the non-resident students out in every option? Or first before
all else?
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Would
you allow mid-year enrollment based on attrition? Could other grades ( other thank) also be
capped and utilize a lottery?
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This
one is confusing. I don't
understand. If they aren't in our
neighborhood, why are they going here anyway?
What constitutes " neighborhood school"?
COMMENTS
(Some stated in the form of questions)
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Yuck!
Too many contingencies, like whether siblings have preference in the lottery. Not enough movement of students of BCF(i.e.
no class/grade has enough students removed to open a classroom up)
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We've
been told for several years that we are a no transfer school yet we do have
transfer (siblings, hardship) To be fair
all these transfers should be cancelled not just some, at all grades. The charts show a large number of transfers -
6 transfer just in kinder would have kinder year at 27/28.
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No
Thanks!
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If
this is the option selected, I would urge you to give preference to students with
siblings already at BCS.
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At
least with this option, kids don't have to move 2-3 times. They could stay at the school that they
lottery into. Best option. There are not that many overflow students.
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You
cannot boot kids who are part of this school.
How would this improve #'s ? You
would remove a handful of kids from each grade.
The people impacted area as much a part of this community as anyone. Doesn't
fix for next year.
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This
is the fairest option and seems to make the most sense. Yes, relief may be smaller than the other 2
options would provide but according to PPS , this "relief" is only
needed for 1 year before boundary changes are made. Definitely the most painless option.
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Solution
does not seem adequate enough; perhaps should be implemented anyway for
fairness, but in conjunction with other options that have a more meaningful
impact.
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This
option doesn't solve any problems. I
don't understand why this is even really considered at Fernwood or even at
Hollyrood.
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Sounds
wrong to have to lottery to go to your own neighborhood school.
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Yes. Option 3 seems fair. It seems completely untenable to keep
grandfathering in students who have moved out of the neighborhood.
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It
seems that Portland is in a long-term growth period. On top of that there are areas of this
neighborhood that are under construction
( more condos, taking large lots and putting two homes where there used
to be one) It seems that there should be a more significant consideration for a
long term solution that will accommodate for the least short term disruption to
those students in the system as well as those just entering. On top of it all many people have spent
considerable time, energy and resources to be in the Beverly Cleary Pipeline. How can they be taken care of and provide the
best education for the kids?
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This
option seems manifestly unfair to people with young children moving into the
neighborhood. Cutting students from
outside the boundary is a fine idea.
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Don't
like this process/option. Need to
confirm students are residents of the neighborhood, this currently is not
happening.
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Is
the best option. If not this then option
#1.
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27
students in kindergarten is still too many students. It does not allow for adequate and sufficient
instruction. Doesn't 27 kinders make a
new class?
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The
empty classroom would be filled by a 5th and 1st grade. There would still be no open spaces at
Hollyrood.
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This
is the 2nd worst option regarding the disruption to the BCS community. Families who live in the current boundary
shouldn't have to lottery their kindergartener for neighborhood school. Siblings must be considered!
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As
harsh as it is it only seems fair that those who move to other neighborhoods
can no longer attend BCS. Many of us
make sacrifices to stay in this neighborhood.
However, doesn't seem like it sufficiently solves problems. Capping enrollment for K doesn't sound right!
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Not
fair next year's 1st graders to keep classes so big.
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Lack
of clarity as to where " lottery" kids would go makes it difficult to
assess impact.
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This
option is troubling - the idea of moving kids already at BC ( but not in the
neighborhood in via transfer) is so disruptive to those students and
families. Possible long term
ramifications without the resulting relief needed.
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K
lottery seems unfair. Also this would
sound better if it was definitely going to provide enough relief.
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This
is impossible to police and enforce.
This is divisive and puts neighbor against neighbor. Seems like huge nasty effort w/out reach and
enforcement for very little effect.
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Capping
enrollment slots not even worthy of a question.
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Will
create a hunger games mentality about who gets in first, second. Division instead of community building.
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It’s
a logistical and administrative nightmare for those who don't get in through
the lottery.
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Don’t
support this idea but need to think about:
Preference for siblings. Makes
sense here - try to disrupt as few families as possible. When would lottery happen? Families need time
to plan - transport, aftercare, prepare third incoming K students.
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I
don't understand how there hasn't been an enrollment cap - there is only a
finite amount of space in the schools - this might work in the long term
combined with a boundary change.
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Logistics,
coordination, equality seems overwhelming.
Option 1 seems most logical.
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Option
3 most fair to existing students minimum disruption to them. BCS should not have kids from other
neighborhoods - No room! Short term solution is ok - long term coming with
boundary changes
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Seems
like another way of offering Option TWO, because it seems like there are many
students in the east/west boundary area who are still as of this and area in
the BCS community who would not be coming in.
Lottery blind? Or sibling preference?
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Please
please please have sibling preference if enrollment is capped. Please
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Feels
very difficult for kindergarteners pick on those not yet engaged. Especially hard for siblings.
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Students
on transfer need to return to NH school who are attending BC.
CRITERIA/GENERAL
QUESTIONS
(ANSWERS ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS)
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Would
option 1 or 2 allow for the sibling of a current non-NH BCS student to attend
BCS next year for kindergarten?
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Student
achievement was not mentioned. Can
you please speak to this concern and how
the option on the table specifically address student achievement?
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How
much will this cost of any of these changes be a factor in the decision?
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Why
not waive the usual permitting procedure for portables?
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Where
are we in the process of long-term growth management. Can we share information now so it can be considered
in connection with short-term 1st year changes?
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Would
it be easier to address the boundary issue this year if were moving in that
direction for 2015?
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What
about an opt-in process to seed one each K-1 classroom at RCP? Likely to draw people who live close by or
are otherwise more accepting of the option.
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Is
next year too soon to open Rose City? It seems like there is a neighborhood
population to support it.
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I've
heard Beaumont MS has space; might we send 8th grades there? Can we put
additional portables @ Grant for 8th graders?
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Why
was decision to make BCS K-8? (Wasn't here then) Wouldn't turning the school back to K-5, 6-8
(Rose City Park) work?
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How
is this working to accommodate where longer term solutions are going?
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When
long term boundary changes happens, will existing BC students be grandfathered
in?
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Why
is the 2014 -15 enrollment projected so low relative to all previous years?
Does this create a risk that the solution being sought will not be adequate if
enrollment is higher than projected?
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What
about F.T.E. would Hollyrood lose a kindergarten teacher?
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How
long would this be for?
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Who
will make the final recommendation to the Superintendent?
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Is
PPS considering a combination of options (e.g., both options 1 and 3)?
COMMENTS
(Some stated in the form of questions)
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Keep
siblings together as much as possible.
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This
should not be looked at as a short term option! Look more long term. Minimize moves for kids, make logical and
thoughtful & planful decisions now.
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If
you want to minimize disruptions, please consider adding portables to the list
of options.
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Maintain
a strong community support for our schools.
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How
can we create one building to serve the entire community? New state of the art
school built west of the existing Fernwood building!!!
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Are
you considering the mass exodus to private education in your projected
enrollment? Between short term, long term, & Grant renovation, PPS will
love student population.
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Please
consider teacher teaming if there are needs to plan, learn collaborate across
grades.
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Don't
thrash the kids - don't make kids make all new friends for a potentially 1 year
solution.
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Financial
plan that has minimal financial impact & is consistent with long term
planning.
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Be
considerate of the fact that Rose City Park NH children already dealt with a
school closure, then changed to Bev Cleary and now possible changing
boundaries? The kids in this NH have been through enough change . People bought houses over the last few years
for Bev. Cleary Grant NH.
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Consider
moving staff and students for one year.
This is a huge disruption and is not a good solution if HS only are one
year. Consider the community of the
staff.
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Consider
acquiring covered play structure P.P.R property for lunchroom, classroom, gym,
area.
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Your
explanation of the relative "weight" of solution goals leans towards
short term solutions which may not sustain goal of reduced class size.
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Make
sure this is not a band-aid. We should
have known this would happen in 2009.
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Criteria
should include any solution should be more than a 1 year fix, or at least be
part of a long-term fix.
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Suggestion
for criteria: What about the impact of
each option on students, families of color and or low socio-economic status?
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A
timely decision that allows families to make changes in reaction ie, by end of February.
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Keeping
Siblings together for family logistics, transportation ect.
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Siblings
if splitting up grades to different school for example 2 & 3 to Rose City
K-1, 4-8 @ BCS or splitting enrollment area by grade K,1,2 another school .
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Be
sure to consider siblings if a BCS family has another student at school. Those students should be kept together. Since moving boundary is an option.
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The
Fernwood building is a middle school building… it was designed to be that. How can you consider moving 7-8 to a building
that is set-up to be an elementary school first…??? Double gym, big art,
Science labs.
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All
students, no matter what building they are in, will have access to PE, Music,
Arts, certified librarian.
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Minimize
impact on kids who will be affected by Grant rebuild.
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Consider
a middle school for our schools. (It has
worked well for Laurelhurst & Alameda.
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Criteria:
A cafeteria to keep the food allergic kids safe.
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Consider
change to children, families not yet integrated to BCS (eg) incoming K to
Hollyrood and transfering 2nd to Fernwood
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We
need to consider the full impact/experience of each grade's k-12 career. Those disrupted by the Grant remodel, Those who
started the K-8 program should be able to complete it, "Ping
pong-ing" even distributed.
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Criteria:
Solutions that keep feeder patterns to continue.
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Please
don't ask students (grades) who will be spending 2 years at Marshall to also be
displaced next year.
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Make
sure traffic and transportation impacts are considered. Many people in our NH want to walk and ride
bikes to school, options even for small kids.
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Criteria
that should not be considered: After school programs for a one year solution
ability for Mad Sci or Young Rembrandts should not be considered. Also we can do W/O Arts, Music, Spanish &
in stand - alone classrooms, library.
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This
should be done in a sustainable way.
i.e., it should not involve parents driving the kids to school.
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Work
to ensure short term decisions and long term decisions are in tandem so that we
don't have years of disruption.
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Note
to organizers - Excellent Job!! Format was perfect calm & sanity to the
initial stage. I love the color note
cards.
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It
should be considered that 8th graders could handle change more than K-2, so I'm
not sure why moving 8th graders is out.
2 & 3rd graders having to move schools 2-3 will be more
disrupted. Consider that people that
live within 1 mile chose the houses for location of school.
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Explosion
of enrollment is not affecting Grant HS as one of the considered options (Move
8th grade to Grant) My assumption from this reasoning is that the population
bulge is in earlier grades levels.
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Add
Maintain Community Support.
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Kids
who were moved to a K-8 should be able to finish that program.
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Want
a decision that would be in line with long term decisions.
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Families
need to know that younger siblings will get to attend if they have an older
sibling attending.
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We
haven't provided enough details . How
can parents make a decision.
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